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#4 - Who Gets To Pee?

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Toilets are ground zero in a global culture war. 

In this episode, we're using toilets as a lens to explore feminism, trans and gender diverse inclusion. In parts of Australia, local councils have introduced trans bathroom bans. Australia's National Construction Code only specifies male and female facilities. 

Gender diverse and trans people are forced to share toilets meant for people with a disability or compelled to use the wrong toilets. They face gender inequality that is made worse by other forms of discrimination. Meanwhile, women are still queueing, still doing caring work in bathrooms, still going without menstrual products and still using toilets as a sanctuary from male violence. 

So how do we navigate this highly sensitive issue? We rewrote the regulations so nobody loses access and everyone gains.

In this episode, you'll learn:
  • Why toilets have become a flashpoint in the global culture war (and what North Carolina's bathroom bill cost the state in lost business)
  • What an "all gender" facility actually looks like, and why it doesn't take anything away from women
  • Why public toilets are civic infrastructure, and what happens when we stop investing in them

Guests:
  • Dr Sean Mulcahy, Research Fellow, Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society, La Trobe University
  • Professor Nicole Kalms, Department of Design and Founding Director of the XYX Lab, Monash University
Hosts:
  • Becky Batagol, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Monash University
  • Kate Seear, Professor, Deakin Law School, Deakin University

Take action today:

The book is free! The provisions are drafted. Take them to your parliament. Adapt them for another jurisdiction. Or start your own feminist legislation project.

You can read Sean’s proposal for modification of the National Construction Code to require all-gender sanitary facilities in public buildings.  


The Feminist Legislation Project: Rewriting Laws for Gender-Based Justice 
Edited By Becky Batagol, Kate Seear, Heli Askola, Jamie Walvisch
Published by Routledge
Copyright 2025


Mentioned in this Episode:

This podcast was funded by Monash University through the Office of the Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Research and Enterprise).

Produced by Miniature

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